The Mom Test
The Mom Test
- Talk about their life instead of your idea
- Ask about specifics in the past instead of generics or opinions about the future
- Talk less and listen more
Avoiding bad data
Compliments
- Recognise the fake compliment and move back to discover the fact
- Move away from pitching as soon as you realised you are
Fluff (generics, hypotheticals, and the future)
- Can anchor fluff to a real experience in the past
- Reject the generic claim, and anchor them towards the actions they already taking
Idea
- Write all asked idea and feature down, but focus on the scalable ones
- Dig into why they wish to add this feature
- "Why do you want this feature"
- "What would that let you do"
- "How are you coping without it"
Pathos Problem
- keep the conversation focused on the other person, ask about specific, concrete cases and examples
- Keep your idea and ego out of the conversation
Cut off pitches
- Apologise when you slip into pitch mode
- If they ask for your idea, tell them at the end or waitlist them
Talk less
Asking important questions
- Look whether the person is interested or not before zooming into the question
- If you got heavy product risk (as opposed to market risk), unable to prove as much of the business during customer conversations
- Always need a list of your 3 big questions
Keeping it casual
- Learning about a customer and their problems works better as a quick and casual chat than a long, formal meeting
- If it feels like they’re doing you a favour by talking to you, it’s probably too formal.
- Give as little information as possible about your idea while still nudging the discussion in a useful direction.
Commitment and advancement
- “Customers” who keep being friendly but aren’t ever going to buy are a particularly dangerous source of mixed signals.”
- “ If you don’t know what happens next after a product or sales meeting, the meeting was pointless.”
- “The more they’re giving up, the more seriously you can take their kind words.”
- “It’s not a real lead until you’ve given them a concrete chance to reject you.”
- In early stage sales, the real goal is learning. Revenue is just a side-effect.
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Types of commitments
A time commitment could include:
- Clear next meeting with known goals
- Sitting down to give feedback on wireframes
- Using a trial themselves for a non-trivial period
Reputation risk commitments might be:
- Intro to peers or team
- Intro to a decision maker (boss, spouse, lawyer)
- Giving a public testimonial or case study
Financial commitments are easier to imagine and include:
- Letter of intent (non-legal but gentlemanly agreement to purchase)
- Pre-order
- Deposit
Finding the conversation
Outbound
- “ If it’s not a formal meeting, you don’t need to make excuses about why you’re there or even mention that you’re starting a business. Just have a good conversation.”
- “f it’s a topic you both care about, find an excuse to talk about it. Your idea never needs to enter the equation and you’ll both enjoy the chat.”
- Student doing research around ...
- Landing pages
Inbound
- Organise meetups
- Teaching and speaking, “You'll find chances at conferences, workshops, through online videos, blogging, or doing free consulting or office hours.”
- Be creative
Create warm intro
- mutual friends, everyone knows someone
Asking for and framing the meeting
Vision / Framing / Weakness / Pedestal / Ask
- You're an entrepreneur trying to solve horrible problem X, usher in wonderful vision Y, or fix stagnant industry Z. Don't mention your idea.
- Frame expectations by mentioning what stage you're at and, if it's true, that you don't have anything to sell.
- Show weakness and give them a chance to help by mentioning your specific problem that you're looking for answers on. This will also clarify that you're not a time waster.
- Put them on a pedestal by showing how much they, in particular, can help.
- Ask for help.
- Rather in the mindset of looking for customers, rather look for advisors, evaluate them, see how they can contribute to the idea
- “Rule of thumb: Keep having conversations until you stop hearing new stuff.”
Choosing your customers
- Make sure your customers is well segmented, such as computer science student rather than just students
- “If you aren’t finding consistent problems and goals, you don’t yet have a specific enough customer segment.”
Slicing customers
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“Within this group, which type of this person would want it most?
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Would everyone within this group buy/use it, or only some of them?
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Why do they want it? (e.g. What is their problem or goal)
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Does everyone in the group have that motivation or only some of them?
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What additional motivations are there?
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Which other types of people have these motivations?”
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“What are these people already doing to achieve their goal or survive their problem?
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Where can we find our demographic groups?
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Where can we find people doing the above workaround behaviours?”
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“Good customer segments are a who-where pair. If you don’t know where to go to find your customers, keep slicing your segment into smaller pieces until you do.”
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“You want to talk to people who are representative of your customers, not ones who sound impressive on your status report.”
Running the process
- Prepping
- Keep the most important questions in mind
- “If this company were to fail, why would it have happened?
- What would have to be true for this to be a huge success?”
- “What do we want to learn from these guys?”
- “If you don’t know what you’re trying to learn, you shouldn’t bother having the conversation.”
- Reviewing
- update your beliefs and 3 big question as appropriate
- Where to write it down
- “Able to be sorted, mixed, and re-arranged
- Able to be combined with the notes of the rest of your team
- Permanent and retrievable
- Not mixed in with other random noise like todo lists and ideas
The process
- The process before a batch of conversations:
- “If you haven’t yet, choose a focused, findable segment
- With your team, decide your big 3 learning goals
- If relevant, decide on ideal next steps and commitments
- If conversations are the right tool, figure out who to talk to
- Create a series of best guesses about what the person cares about
- If a question could be answered via desk research, do that first”
- During the conversation:
- Frame the conversation
- Keep it casual
- Ask good questions which pass The Mom Test
- Deflect compliments, anchor fluff, and dig beneath signals
- Take good notes
- If relevant, press for commitment and next steps
- After a batch of conversations:
- With your team, review your notes and key customer quotes
- If relevant, transfer notes into permanent storage
- Update your beliefs and plans
- Decide on the next 3 big questions”